Utah Transportation Commission
October 3, 1997
Salt Lake City, Utah

The regular meeting of the Utah Transportation Commission, held at 4501 South 2700 West in Salt Lake City, Utah, was called to order at 9:06 a.m. by Commission Chairman Glen E. Brown.

Salt Lake City Railroad Relocation and Gateway Project
Chairman Brown asked Director Warne to give some background on the item. Director Warne said UDOT has been working with Salt Lake City for a long time on what is known as the Gateway project. He said the City is interested in redeveloping a significant portion of downtown. UDOT’s I-15 project and the reconstruction of the viaducts at 400, 500, and 600 South are key to Gateway becoming a reality. He stated that Clint Topham will be presenting further details to the Commission, and Mayor Corradini will also update the Commission on recent developments that are important to the success of the project.

Clint Topham displayed several charts, an aerial photo of the viaducts and I-15, and a map of the Gateway area in SLC. Mr. Topham explained that the department was approached by SLC a few years ago with the idea of shortening the viaducts in order to facilitate new development in the Gateway area. Currently, there are several railroad tracks that serve the area, and those tracks would need to be moved in order for the area to develop properly. He said the City approached the Transportation Commission at one time asking for funds to help with preliminary engineering on the project. The Commission did approve those funds. The Sear Brown Group and others were hired to do some feasibility studies, and the studies did indicate it would be feasible to move the rail service from several of the businesses in the area, and to relocate the lines to the west. Mr. Topham stated that it would involve the relocation of Amtrack, the building of an intermodal hub, and the reconstruction of several intersections and roadways in the area. As a result, when the department bid the reconstruction job for I-15, the opportunity for several options were put into the RFP, including shortening the viaducts, which the department assumed would be a deduct from the total project. Mr. Topham further explained the savings from the ramp reduction and the costs of the other optional projects. He said the Commission approved the project, and approved in the cash flow, $5.8 million for payment to SLC as part of the Gateway project. Also approved were all of the other options on the project. He related that there has been some question as to the savings on the project. He said all of the savings have been spent for the other options, and anything that the Commission might be asked to spend above and beyond the $5.8 million would need to be additional monies.

Mr. Topham talked about the November 1st deadline and said that the department has to let Wasatch Constructors know about exercising all of the options at that time. Option B would need to be executed with Wasatch if the Gateway project is going to move ahead. He also mentioned that UDOT would contribute money from excess property that might become available, such as a loop ramp that would no longer be needed, and a slip ramp that would become excess property. He then explained what the department’s $5.8 million would be used for. Mr. Topham next reviewed the items that Salt Lake City would need to complete before the November 1st deadline. Director Warne said there are a lot of issues that need to come together to make the Gateway project happen, but they do seem to be coming together. He said it would be appropriate for the city to report on their status at this time, as there has been a lot of activity lately.

Mayor Deedee Corradini passed a handout to the Commission and said they have been working very hard, and the most exciting news they have is in regards to the September 25th letter they received from Union Pacific Railroad. She said it has taken three to four years of work to get to this point, and it’s the most difficult and biggest decision that had to be made. Without this letter, the Gateway project doesn’t happen at all. And, there are no conditions attached to the letter. Mayor Corradini then referred to the single page handout and said it summarizes many of the things from the chart Mr. Topham displayed. Everything is moving along, and is either totally done or in progress. She then gave further explanation. She said although there is a lot of pressure, they are feeling confident that they can get this far enough along that both UDOT and SLC will feel comfortable on October 23rd, and they’ll bring the Commission a full package at that time.

Commissioner Clyde congratulated SLC on its accomplishments. Chairman Brown asked questions about whether or not condemnation authority may have to be used, either by the City or the State. Mayor Corradini said at this point, they don’t anticipate needing to use it. There was additional discussion involving the source of funds that settle negotiations where an offer has been made. The was also discussion about surplus property. Commissioner Clyde asked to hear the department’s characterization of the progress on the agreement. Director Warne said that headway is being made and the agreement delineates the responsibilities between the City and UDOT. Some specifics have been worked on regarding risk after November 1st and expenditure of resources and energies between the two agencies up to November 1st. Director Warne said he thought they would be able to come to an agreement. Mayor Corradini mentioned there has been weekly meetings of everyone involved to go through each detail, and Bob Parry from UDOT has been attending those meetings. Chairman Brown asked about having the funding issue resolved before the October 23rd Commission meeting. Director Warne said he thought it would be imperative to have an agreement with SLC as to the total amount involved on October 23rd. Additional discussion ensued regarding the funding issue.

Planning and Programming
Parleys Terrace Noise Wall Funds
Clint Topham said this issue has been discussed at the last two Commission meetings. It had been determined that the Parleys Terrace area was not eligible for a noise wall under current criteria. Either a tall wall had to be built, which did not meet the criteria because of the cost per dwelling unit, or a shorter wall had to be built, which would not have decreased the sound enough. Several months ago, the Commission instructed the staff to go to the Parleys Terrace residents and offer participation in the project, up to the amount of money that would qualify under the cost per dwelling unit. He said that offer was made to them. The residents were also offered the money to let them build a noise wall along their property line. That offer was turned down.

Mr. Topham mentioned that the Parleys Terrace residents requested some time to decide whether or not they could come up with the money to have the will built along UDOT’s property line. He said a letter was sent to the residents stating that at decision would need to be made by today’s meeting, of what they were going to do. Mr. Topham said he has been contacted by phone by the residents and was told that they had raised part of the money, but they wanted additional time and wanted to talk to the Commission about that today. They also indicated that representatives from the Parleys Terrace area would not be able to attend today’s meeting.

Senator Dave Buhler said he would like to speak on the issue. He thanked the Commission for the actions taken at the last meeting concerning noise walls. He said in regards to Parleys Terrace, he appreciates the Commission’s willingness to hold onto the FY97 money, and for providing an opportunity for the residents to fill in the gap needed, which is about $120,000 and not an insignificant amount of money. Senator Buhler said that he doesn’t feel like asking the Commission to hold onto the FY97 money any longer, but asked that at such time, if the Parleys Terrace residents are able to come up with the money, that they be able to approach the Commission and ask for funds to be approved out of future monies.

Mr. Topham said the department's recommendations were going to be along the same lines that Senator Buhler spoke about. The $350,000 that was to be spent on Parleys Terrace would be assigned to the four zones on Wasatch Boulevard that were outlined at the last Commission meeting. It would be enough to do three of the four zones. An additional amount of money would still be needed to do the fourth zone, approximately $350,000. He said it was also recommended at the last meeting that $350,000 be taken from the Ash Circle project, that the Ash Circle project be delayed for a year, and that all four projects on Wasatch Boulevard be built. Chairman Brown asked if the Commission took action on that last month. Mr. Topham said the Commission did not take that action in order to give the Parleys Terrace residents a chance to come and speak to the issue.

Commissioner Lewis asked about the department's noise wall policy, and if it addressed the issue of allowing residents to come up with shortfalls and to meet the funding portion if the criteria isn't met. Mr. Topham replied that the policy does address the issue, by either the citizens coming up with the money or a local government coming up with the money. He also said that the policy talks about noise abatement, not just noise walls. It allows modifications to be done to homes, such as insulation or double paned windows, but most people want protection in their yard as well as inside of the home. There was discussion on the time frame for the residents to come back to the Commission if they are able to raise the additional money. Mr. Topham said it's something the department and the Commission should discuss at some point. Commissioner Lewis asked if the $350,000 that's coming off of the Parleys Terrace project needed to be earmarked, if the department is committed in some way, and if the residents needed any kind of priority in the future? He said he didn't want them to have expectations different from UDOT's. Mr. Topham suggested that the Parleys Terrace area be left on the list with its noise level, and to shade it and note that it does not meet the criteria, as has been done with the Deercreek/Fortuna Way area. It's still on the list and it's still there to be considered. Director Warne said that if the residents do come up with the money in the next several months, it is possible that the department could use the money to complete the engineering, and then the Commission could program FY99 dollars to build the wall. If the residents don't come forward with the funding, then no action will occur on the project.

There were concerns raised about the timing being too open ended and on having certain dates that would have to be met in order to be considered. Senator Buhler said he was comfortable with a date, but not a drop dead date. He said as long as there is noise there, it's still an issue. Director Warne said that each year the Commission sets the program. And when the program is set, there's a time frame for the public to come forward. If the Parleys Terrace residents come forward in a timely way prior to the adoption of the FY99 program, then the Commission can act once those funds are programmed. If the residents delay raising the money, then they delay themselves to the following fiscal year. Commissioner Eastman said that should be detailed in a letter to the residents.

Commissioner Lewis made a motion to transfer the funds of approximately $350,000 from the Parleys Terrace noise wall project to the four projects on Wasatch Boulevard. It was seconded by Commissioner Larkin and passed unanimously.

Commissioner Lewis made a second motion to transfer $350,000 from the Ash Circle noise wall project to the four projects on Wasatch Boulevard. It was seconded by Commissioner Larkin and passed unanimously.

Chairman Brown commented that there should be a motion to direct the staff to communicate with the residents of Parleys Terrace in detail, where they are in relationship to the process and how things will proceed in the future, if and when any funds come forward. There was additional discussion on noise walls and how many years there are on the schedule, and on noise wall projects in general.

Commissioner Clyde made a motion on the guidelines that Director Warne gave the Commission; that there be deadlines and cutoffs each year, and if the residents don't make the deadlines, then they have to wait until the next year when funding is available. It was seconded by Commissioner Lewis and passed unanimously.

Senator Buhler commented that he appreciates the Commission's actions, and thinks its very important there be clear communication. There was discussion on making sure that the STIP properly reflects the actions being discussed today. Chairman Brown directed the staff to review the STIP, and if a motion is needed at the October 23rd meeting it would be taken then. Chairman Brown and Mr. Topham then briefed the Commission on a meeting that was recently held with residents from the Deercreek/Fortuna Way area, and the results of the meeting.

Planning and Programming
Formal Approval of the TIP
Linda Toy explained that ISTEA requires that states prepare Transportation Improvement Programs in cooperation with the local MPO's and local governments. She said WFRC has prepared and approved their TIP, and because of the requirements under ISTEA, the state needs to approve it. The Commission needs to formally approve the TIP so that it can be included in the STIP for the year.

Commissioner Lewis moved to approve the TIP. Commissioner Eastman seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.

Planning and Programming
Addition of Olympic Transit Projects to the STIP
Linda Toy stated that at the last Commission meeting, the Commission considered a request to extend highway funds on some Olympic transit projects, and had directed staff at that meeting to work with the WFRC and UTA to see if there could be some kind of exchange of transit funds and highway funds. She said that has been done, and funding that could be exchanged has been identified. Ms. Toy referred to the information in the Commissioner's binders. She mentioned the 9400 South, 2000 East park and ride that is programmed for FY98. Federal participation for that was $740,000, and WFRC has approved the use of those funds. In addition, in the year 2000, UTA had $1.2 million to purchase five new busses. UTA is offering those funds. Together, the total comes to $1.9 million, but only $1.6 million is needed as the trade off between transit and highway funding to cover their Olympic planning. That would leave UTA with enough money in 2000 to buy 1½ busses rather than buying 5. Instead, the $1.6 million would go into the ATMS, the program that is being developed at UDOT for Intelligent Transportation.

Commissioner Eastman moved to approve the addition of the Olympic transit projects to the STIP. It was seconded by Commissioner Bodily and passed unanimously.

Planning and Programming
Approval of Revision of Regulations Governing Class B & C Funds
George Thompson commented about the Joint Highway Committee meeting held in Monticello on September 18 and 19, and said there were a few recommendations from the Committee in the next three items. He said the first item is modifications or revisions to the regulations governing Class B & C funds. The last revisions were a result of 1994 legislation. This year's legislation changed the distribution formulas for the Class B & C road funds. It is now distributed based on 50% population and 50% on road mileage. He mentioned that the Joint Highway Committee created a subcommittee that was appointed to revise the procedure currently used to update figures used in the allocation of the Class B & C road funds. He then introduced Brian Bremner from Garfield County and Denton Beecher from Box Elder County, two members from the JHC attending today's meeting. Mr. Thompson gave further detailed explanation on the item. There was discussion on the definition of an asphalt, gravel, and a dirt road, and a more in depth discussion on dirt roads.

Commissioner Lewis said not having directly worked with B & C funds, he doesn't have a clear picture of everything that goes on. He said that if the department is going to put more authority there for the locals to make decisions, there needs to be a proper safeguard. If a road is going to be included in the inventory, there needs to be something that makes sure that it really does qualify. There was more discussion focusing on the funding, road eligibility, and regulations.

Commissioner Larkin moved to approve the changes as presented. It was seconded by Commissioner Clyde and passed unanimously.

Planning and Programming
Approval of Revisions of Regulations and Program of State Park Access
George Thompson said as was previously recommended by the Joint Highway Committee, the Commission approved $500,000 that was eligible as of July 1st, from the STIP, of State Park Access money. The first two projects approved were $250,000 for Kodachrome Basin and $250,000 for Goblin Valley. Mr. Thompson introduced Brian Bremner of Garfield County, to give further explanation on the item.

Mr. Bremner said he serves on the subcommittee that administers the state access roads. He said that of the money that became available on July 1st, half of it was already spent by August 30th, and the other part has been put out to bid already. So, the money given directly to the counties and cities can be applied very quickly. Mr. Bremner said that UDOT formed regulation as a result of a bill that was developed to alleviate some of the impacts to cities and counties as a result of state park roads. The regulation was catered more from UDOT's way of doing things and UDOT's definitions, particularly in the term construction. He said that construction means that there has to be an asphalt overlay exceeding 2 inches. If there was a significant stretch of asphalt road that needed some significant crack sealing and chip sealing, it would be beyond the county's capability to do it all on their own, and would be ineligible by definition. He said that was brought up when the rules were out for public comment. It was requested that the rules be adopted with the construction limitation on it for the first year, and then to come back to the Commission and ask for the change. As a result, they met with the eligible entities and have developed a program. Most of the things under the program would not be eligible if the changes are not made. The change is essential to good management of money and use of the funding. It does expand the eligible uses. However, the committees, subcommittees and the JHC have been very careful in trying to use that for significant projects.

Chairman Brown said that he didn't believe that it was intended for cities. Mr. Bremner responded that when legislation was drawn up, it was drawn with certain definitions, and the word municipalities was used, which also included cities, but at that time, no cities had roads that were eligible. Since that time, at least two cities have gone back and lobbied the legislature, and had the state park access roads changed to those state parks so that they were then eligible on the list. Now, by state law, those entities are eligible to participate. Mr. Bremner mentioned a project in St. George for Snow Canyon, and also a project in Midway City that accesses Wasatch Mountain State Park road. Further discussion followed regarding the issue.

Commissioner Lewis moved to adopt the changes as recommended. It was seconded by Commissioner Eastman and passed unanimously.

Chairman Brown asked Mr. Bremner if the three year program needed to be approved. Mr. Bremner said that was correct. There was discussion about the details of the St. George/Snow Canyon project and also the Midway project.

Commissioner Lewis moved to approve the funds as recommended. It was seconded by Commissioner Larkin and passed unanimously.

Clint Topham said that in regards to the parks access program that was just approved, the projects need to be added to the STIP and funded, so there needs to be a motion to add them to the STIP.

Commissioner Lewis moved that the State Park Access Road projects that were just funded be added to the STIP. It was seconded by Commissioner Larkin and passed unanimously.

Planning and Programming
Approval of Additional Funds for Bear River Bridge
George Thompson explained that the Joint Highway Committee received some information on the Bear River Bridge in Box Elder County. He said the bridge went to bid in June, but the bids were rejected because they were too high. They are asking that additional funds be put to the Bear River Bridge so that it can be readvertised. A bridge in Duchesne County and possibly one on Morgan County would be delayed to accommodate the change. Mr. Thompson said they will be asking for $380,000 instead of $366,000. It is an 80/20 match with Box Elder County providing 20%, and federal funds from the bridge replacement program providing the other 80% of the funds. The bridge is ready to advertise and they hope to get a better bid on it. Denton Beecher from Box Elder County gave a brief overview of the bridge, its design, and history.

Commissioner Lewis moved to approve the additional funds for the Bear River Bridge. It was seconded by Commissioner Bodily and passed unanimously.

Chairman Brown called a short break.

Pedestrian Overpasses
Riverton City
Mayor Sandra Lloyd of Riverton City addressed the Commission. She said there is a lot of growth occurring in Riverton, with a 14% growth rate the last three or four years. And, with all of that growth, there are many challenges being met. Currently, three new schools are being constructed within the city boundaries, all at the same time. A high school, a middle school, and an elementary school. The middle school and the elementary school are both adjacent to the Bangerter Highway, now under construction. She said that safety of children and people is always foremost in their minds, and holds a high priority in their decision making. For students to access these two schools, they will have to cross Bangerter Highway. There isn’t any way to cross that street safely, so what needs to happen is two skywalks be built for students to access the schools. Mayor Lloyd mentioned UDOT’s policy of 75/25 split, with UDOT responsible for 75% of the funds, and 25% being the responsibility of the city and school district. She said that Riverton City is able to commit the 12.5% of their part. But, Riverton City is in no position to finance the two skywalks solely on their own. She said she has come to the Commission today to plead and beg for financial assistance. The skywalks need to be built before Bangerter Highway is completed.

Mayor Lloyd turned the time over to Ken Leetham, Riverton City Administrator, for additional comments about financing and a possible way UDOT could assist Riverton City. Mr. Leetham displayed a map of Riverton City and pointed out the locations of the schools. He talked about the planning processes, and said that UDOT’s planning period and process has been different than the school district’s planning process, as well as the city’s planning process, so they have not coincided. He said they currently don’t fall under UDOT’s policy, the 75/25 split that Mayor Lloyd previously mentioned, and the reason is that there are two groups that have planning processes that are occurring at different times. Mr. Leetham related that in a meeting with Director Warne, it was suggested that Riverton City come before the Commission with a request for the use of ISTEA enhancement funds to assist Riverton City and the school district in the construction of the two skywalks, and that’s what they are requesting today.

Barry Newbold, superintendent of the Jordan School District spoke to the Commission. He echoed the plea of Mayor Lloyd and Riverton City. The safety of the students is of joint concern. He also talked about the schedule for the opening of the schools. There was mention of the dates when the school sites were acquired. He said that when a piece of property is bought, they do anticipate building a school there. But, being able to determine the exact time line is very difficult. He mentioned that on May 6th of this year, the patrons of Jordan School District elected to support a bond that will ultimately build seven new schools. No one can predict the timing of those kinds of buildings, nor can anyone predict the outcome of a bond election. But, within 18 months there will be thousands of students trying to make safe passage to those schools. Mr. Newbold said he would like to enlist the Commission’s support to make those accommodations to the students. He said he is authorized by the board of education to commit their 12.5%. The money is in hand and ready to go.

Director Warne said this project is a bit of a dilemma. Bangerter Highway is currently under construction, and policy states that if the road is already built, UDOT won’t participate in an after the fact kind of scenario. It’s an issue of is the road built or not. Discussion followed regarding UDOT’s policy and the enhancement funds. Commissioner Clyde commented that he gets a little impatient because everyone knew when Bangerter Highway was going to be built, the school district knew schools were going to be built, and they knew what UDOT’s planning process was. Mr. Newbold said that UDOT acknowledged a school site in their planning process, but the school district could not give UDOT a definite commitment as to when the school would go in until the day after the election in May. There was additional discussion on the planning process, and legislation that dealt with the issue of school locations and transportation. Chairman Brown commented that there is a policy that UDOT is bound to follow, and a way to work around the policies and the resources available needs to be figured out. He said there is also another group that needs to be heard concerning a pedestrian overpass. After that, the Commission will have to determine what resources are available, and how to deal with the rule that is in place. A resolution to the problem needs to be figured out.

Mr. Leetham stated that their preference is to have both of their overpasses done at the same time because of the schools opening. However, they would take one instead of two, but to build one now and one later. Both are critical to have, but the priority would be at 12600 South for the elementary school. It will open sooner than the middle school.

Pedestrian Overpasses
West Valley City
Mary Jane Emrazian, chairman of the CHAD Group said their group is officially requesting an overpass at 4100 South and Bangerter Highway. They appreciate the money that was appropriated for the 3100 South overpass, but they would like to continue with the need they feel is desperate in the section of West Valley City that Bangerter intersects. Ms. Emrazian gave a break down of the number of students required to cross 4100 South at Bangerter to attend Granger High, Valley Jr. High, West Lake Jr. High, and Pioneer Elementary. She also mentioned that in regards to vehicular use of Bangerter Highway, the numbers are increasing. From 1996 to 1997, traffic has gone up 19%. There are 56,800 vehicles averaged daily on Bangerter, which is only 200 away from the projected 20 year usage for the year 2010, and it’s only the 7th year of Bangerter Highway. Plus, businesses are looking to locate in the area of 2100 South to 3100 South, west of Bangerter Highway, bringing more traffic. She said it is time to move on the 4100 South and Bangerter overpass. The property on the southeast and southwest corners of the intersection are vacant. However, there are plans for construction in that area. Ms. Emrazian said they have received support from West Valley City Council and from Granite School District in providing additional funding for the match. They are asking that the funds for the skywalk come from the enhancement money that was made available.

Shirley Alfred from the CHAD Group spoke briefly and talked about the Senior Citizen Center located on 4100 South and 3600 West and the needs there. Mayor Gerald Patterson from West Valley City also spoke briefly. He said they have needs that were not met at the time Bangerter Highway was built. Safety is a very important factor, and 4100 South and Bangerter Highway is the most important intersection they have at the present time to have an overpass built for. The discussion then focused on prioritizing locations along the whole length of the Bangerter Highway, and if sites have been identified. Director Warne reported that the additional enhancement money has only really availed itself in the last seven to ten days. His recommendation would be that the department take these proposed projects and weigh them in the context of all of the other safety issues that are out there relating to pedestrian safety. Then come back to the Commission with a recommendation. The department would also have to look at the projects in the context of UDOT’s policy. The challenge of the policy is that there’s always someone that falls on one side of the policy, and someone that falls on the other side of the policy. Chairman Brown asked when a recommendation is anticipated. Director Warne said that the October 23rd meeting would be too soon, but suggested that recommendations be made at the November meeting. He said it also appears that Congress will have passed the extension by then.

Commissioner Lewis asked about the amount of funds that the department anticipates receiving. Director Warne said about $1.5 million, and if there is another 6 month extension, then there could potentially be $3 million. As far as the costs of the overpasses, each location is different depending on the right of way and utilities. The overpass at 3100 South is costing about $856,000, which is probably a pretty typical cost.

Approval of Minutes
Commissioner Lewis moved to approve the minutes of the September 5, 1997 Commission meeting held in Salt Lake City. It was seconded by Commissioner Bodily and passed unanimously.

Planning and Programming
Kanarraville Rest Area Increase
Ken Adair said the Kanarraville rest area is currently programmed for $3.5 million, but the latest estimates from the consultant is approximately $5.2 million. He said has come to ask that some changes be made in the program so they can go ahead and get the project ready to advertise. Mr. Adair then discussed in detail the conditions of the rest area, and what has caused some of the cost increases. He also identified funds to cover the increase costs. He said two projects were put on hold by the Commission at the meeting in Castle Dale. Mr. Adair requested that $600,000 be taken from the Woodside rest area project and $1 million be taken from the Ghost Rocks rest area project. With that money, they would be able to advertise the Kanarraville project in November.

Commissioner Griffith commented that she sits on the committee that put the moratorium on the rest areas. Their concern was that the existing rest areas were not at the quality that they wanted them to be at, which was showcase quality. That was the reason for the moratorium. She said that what Mr. Adair is doing with the Kanarraville rest area is what the moratorium was for, which was to seek quality. Commissioner Larkin asked if there was a problem with moving the money as Mr. Adair has suggested. Clint Topham replied if that is what’s going to be done, then unless the amount of funding that goes to rest areas is increased, then there will probably be fewer rest areas if the quality issue is going to be addressed. But, there’s nothing wrong with it if that’s the way the Commission wants to go. Commissioner Lewis said he sees this unfolding as a prioritization issue similar to the overpasses that were just talked about. He asked if Kanarraville is absolutely where the department wants to have a rest area. Mr. Adair said that Kanarraville is one of the highest used rest areas. Mr. Topham said he asked the Region to make that determination and that’s why they are here today. Mr. Adair made further comments on the Woodside and Ghost Rocks rest areas.

Commissioner Griffith moved to approve the request as presented. It was seconded by Commissioner Clyde and passed unanimously.

Engineers Conference
Commissioner Larkin said that a request has been made for a member of the Commission to speak at the Engineer’s Conference Luncheon at 1:00 p.m. on November 4th at the Snowbird resort. Commissioner Clyde said he would be available to speak. Commissioner Griffith said she would check her calendar when she got back to her office.

Next Commission Meetings
Director Warne explained to the Commission that at the October 23rd Commission meeting, not only will the Gateway project be discussed, but there are alignment issues relating to the Legacy project that will be presented that day for informational purposes. With the way the environmental process is working on the Legacy, and in order to continue with the time line, it will be necessary to have a Commission meeting around November 12th. He said November 7th would be too soon, and the AASHTO Conference starts on November 13th. A decision was made to hold the meeting on November 12, 1997, 9:00 a.m., at the Rampton Complex instead of November 7, 1997.

It was also decided that the request for the Commission to hold a meeting at the airport would be postponed until after the first of the year.

The October 23rd meeting was discussed briefly. It was decided that a Staff Update meeting would be held prior to Commission meeting, and that the Commission meeting would start at 10:00 a.m. on October 23rd.

The following meeting dates and locations have been scheduled:

• October 23, 1997 - Salt Lake City
  
• November 12, 1997 - Salt Lake City
  
• December 5, 1997 - Salt Lake City

Commuter Rail Demonstration
Linda Toy said there is an opportunity for the Commission to go and observe a commuter rail demonstration in Boise, Idaho this month, if anyone is interested in that. It would be sometime during the week of October 13th or 20th, 1997, whatever would work best with those that have an interest. Arrangements would be made to fly to Boise, ride the commuter rail, and return. After a brief discussion, Ms. Toy said she would look into making arrangements for October 20th, and would contact the Commission regarding the details.

The meeting adjourned at 12:37 p.m.

The following Commissioners, staff members, and others were in attendance:

Glen E. Brown, Chairman
James G. Larkin, Vice-Chairman
Ted D. Lewis, Commissioner
Hal M. Clyde, Commissioner
Dan R. Eastman, Commissioner
Sheri L. Griffith, Commissioner
Stephen M. Bodily, Commissioner
LeAnn G. Abegglen, Commission Secretary
Thomas R. Warne, Executive Director
Clinton D Topham, Deputy Director
Linda Toy, Program Development Director
Dave Miles, Engineer for Operations
George Thompson, Program Development
Bob Parry, Program Development
Austin Baysinger, Program Development
John Njord, Program Development
John Quick, Program Development
Scott Nay, Program Development
Andrea Packer, Community Relations
Dyke LeFevre, Region One Director
Jim McMinimee, Region Two Director
Tracy Conti, Region Two Deputy Director
Ken Adair, Region Four Preconstruction Engineer
David Downs, I-15 Project Director
Brian Wilkinson, Wilkinson Ferrari
Michael G. Ritchie, Division Administrator, FHWA
Dan Pacheco, FHWA
Senator Dave Buhler, Utah State Senate
Joe Brown, GOPB
Mayor Deedee Corradini, Salt Lake City
Brian Hatch, Salt Lake City
Tim Harpst, Salt Lake City
Mayor Gerald Wright, West Valley City
John Patterson, West Valley City
Russ Willardson, West Valley City
Barbara Thomas, West Valley City Council
Mayor Sandra Lloyd, Riverton City
Ken Leetham, Riverton City
Barry Newbold, Jordan School District Superintendent
Denton Beecher, Box Elder County
Brian Bremner, Garfield County
John Inglish, Utah Transit Authority
Randy Park, Utah Transit Authority
Kathleen McMullin, Mountainland MPO
Darrell Cook, Mountainland MPO
Doug Hattery, WFRC
Ken Warnick, Ogden Chamber of Commerce
Steve Meyer, The Sear Brown Group
Grant Schultz, The Sear Brown Group
Michael Long, DMJM
Sara Colosimo, DeLeuw Cather & Co.
Harry A. Reed, Baker Transportation
Gene Sturzenegger, MK Centennial
Mary Jane Emrazian, CHAD Group
Abigail Hansen, CHAD Group
Necia Christensen, CHAD Group
Shirley Alfred, CHAD Group
Steve Baron, FOX News
Todd Houggard, FOX News